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Re my earlier post on my Othello geekdom and apparent arrogance in the classroom...



OTHELLO:

That's a fault. That handkerchief
Did an Egyptian to my mother give,
She was a charmer and could almost read
The thoughts of people. She told her, while she kept
it
'Twould make her amiable and subdue my father
Entirely to her love; but if she lost it
Or made a gift of it, my father's eye
Should hold her loathed and his spirits should hunt
After new fancies. She, dying, gave it me
And bid me, when my fate would have me wive,
To give it her. I did so, and -- take heed on't!
Make it a darling, like your precious eye! --
To lose't or give't away were such perdition
As nothing else could match.

Act III, scene iv, lines 56-69



OTHELLO:

'Tis pitiful; but yet Iago knows
That she with Cassio hath the act of shame
A thousand times committed. Cassio confessed it,
And she did gratify his amorous works
WIth that recognizance and pledge of love
Which I first gave her: I saw it in his hand,
It was a handkerchief, an antique token
My father gave my mother.


Act V, scene ii, lines 208-215

Emphasis in the text is mine. :)

Personally, I don't see how difficult it would be to imagine that Othello would try and scare Desdemona into telling him the truth. If he believes her to be dishonest, and believes Iago to be honest...

Ah well.

I wonder if it would be overkill to email the selection to my Ren prof. ;)

*goes back to working on paper*

Date: 2005-04-11 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senay-chan.livejournal.com
Ah. You've got to love Iago as a villian. I love the fact that he swears by Janus, the two faced God. Of course when you start giggling and try to explain it to the guy you're sitting next to, it loses some of its humor...

Date: 2005-04-11 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] w0rdinista.livejournal.com
Ohhhh, Iago is the BEST Shakespearean villain EVAR. I've heard him compared to Edmund in King Lear, but it's been too long since I've read Lear, so I don't know about that. However, I think Edmund, at the end of Lear, admits that he was wrong (?), and Iago makes no such admission.

...Iago swears to Janus? HOW DID I MISS THAT? What act?

*loves this play to itty bitty pieces; can you tell?*

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Is that Kisa?!

Date: 2005-04-11 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] white-death.livejournal.com
Iago is the BEST Shakespearean villain EVAR.

Or the worst, depending on how you put it. ;)

I've heard him compared to Edmund in King Lear, but it's been too long since I've read Lear, so I don't know about that.

No way. Edmund is ruthless, but he just kind of sucks. And he has total reasons for what he does, which are made very clear. Iago's reasons are more mysterious/debateable. Edmund's just an angst-suck. "Boo-hoo! My father doesn't love me better, just because I'm the bastard! I have a complex! Now I'm going to take over the world!" Shut up, yo.

However, I think Edmund, at the end of Lear, admits that he was wrong

Yeah, he begs forgiveness before he dies and so on. Then blames the women. *snork* Wuss.

and Iago makes no such admission.

Nope. ;)

...Iago swears to Janus? HOW DID I MISS THAT? What act?

Oh yeah. I vaguely remember that...
*looks it up* Act I, Scene 2. I thought I remembered it toward the beginning. It's:

IAGO
By Janus, I think no.

He's totally fucking with Othello about who it is coming toward them in the night.

*loves this play to itty bitty pieces; can you tell?*

^^ *squishes teh bunneh*

Re: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Is that Kisa?!

Date: 2005-04-11 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] w0rdinista.livejournal.com
ROFL -- no, that's not Kisa. That's a randomly ADORABLE kittypic that... someone forwarded to me, which I made into an icon.

Kisa is here: http://www.everniamh.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_Picture005.jpg

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